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Megan

Just tried leaving a comment but the screen refreshed or something.
Thanks for the post. The last time I went for a checkup at the OBGYN, I was barraged with signs for Gardasil and every nurse, aide, and doctor was pushing me to get it. I felt like a kid in one of those teen drug commercials.
Of course, despite the fact that I was practically yelling for all the world to hear that I was a devout Christian who (1) was a virgin when I got married last year and (2) don't plan on ever divorcing my husband, they wouldn't stop. I eventually gave in when the doctor started making up obscene "what if" stories about my husband cheating on me or getting a divorce.
Plus, the side effects are crazy and they make you sign and initial that you know all the risks.

Anna

My 10 year old daughter came home with a permission slip to get the vaccine. It was to be given at the same time as her regular booster. I read what it said, and it stated that the vacine is only effective for five years. So they're expecting my daughter to be promiscuous while she's a young teen.

I signed the booster, but not the vacine. When she becomes an adult she can decide for herself, but I'm not going to expose her to an unnessesary vacine when we don't know what the long term effects are.

Turns out, she's not the only girl in her class who's parents turned it down.

I hate the commercials showing all these wholesome looking girls, like every girl is sleazy and it's the norm.

Jennie

Something is fishy with this vaccine. A teen died a few weeks ago in Great Britain just hours after receiving the vaccine, though the autopsy said it was caused by a heart problem. It must've triggered something.

The main thing is to stay on the ball with pap smears etc. I've had hpv that went away by itself, never to return (knock on wood). I'm starting to get iffy on all vaccines nowadays. Are they all as necessary as we're taught?

Natasha

Anna,

It's not about promiscuity. They only need one sexual contact. If you're okay with the booster she might as well get the vaccine. It's not going to make her more psychologically ready for sex. It's not going to make her think she loves someone. A vaccine doesn't have that power. She will probably forget she ever had it.

Jennie

Hm, I need clarification. After reading this post, and the one you linked to, you're saying Anna's daughter "might as well get the vaccine"? That's kind of 180 (degrees) of you, or did I miss something?

Natasha

Jennie, She as much as said that the only reason she didn't agree to the vaccine was because she resented the assertion that her little girl might be promiscuous at a young age. And she said that she consented to the booster. I'm not agreeing that she should get the vaccine. I'm trying to show that the reasons she doesn't want to give her the vaccine are faulty, emotional, and illogical. Her daughter will probably forget she had it. The vaccine is not going to turn her into someone with psychological issues that lead to promiscuity. By Anna's logic, she might as well get the vaccine. I mean, if this blog post didn't sway her at all, and her only comment was that she didn't like the commercials and the assumption that her daughter might have sex as a young teen, then there's really nothing more that I can say, is there?

Anna

No, that's not what I meant.

The booster is for other diseases, diseases that we know are helped by vacines, and it's a booster for vacines she recieved as a pre-schooler. The normal stuff for mumps and measles.

This is a new vacine for something that else all together that has nothing to do with diseases you get from just existing. If you notice I said that I won't expose her to a vacine that we don't know the long term effects. And seeing that it's not preventing anything really, (why does a 10 year old need a vacine that only lasts 5 years for a sexually transmitted situation, I don't know). Yes, I know that there are 13 year olds misbehaving, but the vacine is not going to solve that.

My point is that their selling it to every little girl with the assumption that she's going to have sex at an early age.

And my daughter does know what it's about. I talked to her so that she could understand why I said no, and she agrees with me.

We're actually arguing on the same side.

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